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		<title>Pay More For Position Preference</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does your Adwords advert perform better when it&#8217;s at position 3 than position 6? Do you always want the top spot? That&#8217;s what &#8216;position preference&#8217; is for &#8211; it&#8217;s a little feature that you turn on and off at campaign level so you can choose a range of positions you&#8217;d prefer your advert to show [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does your Adwords advert perform better when it&#8217;s at position 3 than position 6? Do you always want the top spot? That&#8217;s what &#8216;position preference&#8217; is for &#8211; it&#8217;s a little feature that you turn on and off at campaign level so you can choose a range of positions you&#8217;d prefer your advert to show in. </p>
<p>So far so good. What baffles me is the negative effect position preference has on the ad&#8217;s performance. </p>
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<p>An old client of mine wanted to spend a bit less on his Adwords since no-one&#8217;s buying much at the moment, but wanted his ads to keep showing. With his current bids he averaged position 1-2, so I set his position preference at 4-5. The idea was that his ads would show lower down the page and therefore gather less clicks. </p>
<p>He rang me this morning thinking he&#8217;d done something to his account and accidentally turned his ads off. I did a few searched and they appeared nowhere in the search results. Imagine my surprise when I had a look in his account and saw the error message to the left. </p>
<p>Now, his bids were exactly the same as before, but I wanted the ads to show <strong>lower</strong>. Surely by the Laws of Adwords this meant clicks would cost less? After all, the quality score would remain the same&#8230;.right? So the maximum bid would get position 4-5 at least some of the time &#8211; I don&#8217;t see <strong>any</strong> excuse for the adverts to be turned off.</p>
<p>I know that a lot of factors could come into play here &#8211; a changed quality score, different bidding by competitors, etc etc, but what makes me think it&#8217;s a load of bullsh*t is when I turned position preference off:</p>
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<p>The ads started showing again in <strong>position 1</strong>. Obviously nothing wrong with the bid then! </p>
<p>The trouble with Adwords, and I&#8217;ve said it <a href="http://www.piggynap.com/adwords/adwords-error-message-budget-reached-or-exceeded/">before</a>, is that the features allow clashes and bugger-ups, and the error messages are woefully inadequate. For a paid service I think it&#8217;s pretty unforgiveable &#8211; it&#8217;s got to the point when you need to hire an expert to manage it not because it&#8217;s inherently complicated, but because it&#8217;s been <strong>made</strong> complicated.</p>
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		<title>Thomson Local Adwords Fail</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work with Adwords quite a lot so I see a good amount of Adwords Fails. Like when someone has competitor&#8217;s ads on their website &#8211; still my favourite Fail to date. 

Recently I&#8217;ve noticed Thomson Local showing up in the search results &#8211; much like eBay they seem to be bidding on random goods [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with Adwords quite a lot so I see a good amount of Adwords Fails. Like when someone has <a href="http://www.piggynap.com/advertising/todays-tip-dont-show-competitors-ads-on-your-website/">competitor&#8217;s ads on their website</a> &#8211; still my favourite Fail to date. </p>
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<p>Recently I&#8217;ve noticed <a href="http://www.thomsonlocal.com/">Thomson Local</a> showing up in the search results &#8211; much like eBay they seem to be bidding on random goods and services. At first I thought &#8216;oh that&#8217;s good, they&#8217;re providing some clicks for their advertisers&#8217;. Then I realised that they haven&#8217;t quite got the &#8216;local&#8217; thing worked out yet. </p>
<p>In case you&#8217;re wondering, I&#8217;m in Harrogate. </p>
<p>Traditional directories like Thomson Local must be struggling at the moment. On the one hand I applaud them for embracing Pay Per Click &#8211; it&#8217;s something they can offer to keep themselves afloat. On the other hand, their inability to do it properly could be just another nail in the coffin. </p>
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